{"id":2609,"date":"2017-03-03T09:48:25","date_gmt":"2017-03-03T14:48:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/?p=2609"},"modified":"2017-03-10T08:16:30","modified_gmt":"2017-03-10T13:16:30","slug":"2609","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/?p=2609","title":{"rendered":"App-V 5.1 Lifecycle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/clock.png\" width=\"300\" align=\"left\" \/>Sebasitan, the German Microsoft Escalation Engineer we often get new news from about App-V, recently blogged about the dates for the lifecycles for App-V 5.1.\u00a0 Before people get upset, let&#8217;s make sure you understand what this means.<\/p>\n<p>On the date when a product version, or service pack, is released, it sets the clock ticking for end of free mainstream support (general updates and fixes) and for extended support (security fixes), and more.\u00a0 This is true for both operating systems and additional products.\u00a0 Sometimes Microsoft will extended the original date from that clock, but normally not.<\/p>\n<p>App-V 5.1 refers to the MDOP based version of App-V released in 2015.\u00a0 As the product is shipping against existing operating systems, this means that those OSs that it supports will be older and normally have expiration dates prior to that of the released product. And that is the case here.<\/p>\n<p>So will there be a 5.2 version of App-V?\u00a0 Yes, there already is.\u00a0 Well sort of.<\/p>\n<p>Last summer, Microsoft added App-V directly into the operating system for Windows 10 1607 and Windows Server 2016.\u00a0 Internally, it is marked as version 5.2, but we are now in a new way to release App-V so the correct way to refer to a version is to reference the OS build you got it with.\u00a0 So starting with 5.2, the dates are tied together. From what I hear, maintenance will occur as follows:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The App-V Client 5.2 in-box version is simply updated with the OS on an ongoing basis.\u00a0 Hotfixes may occur, just as they would for the OS version.<\/li>\n<li>The App-V Sequencer 5.2 version is part of the Windows ADK.\u00a0 The ADK is also updated with each release of the OS.\u00a0 The ADK is\u00a0<em>generally<\/em> backwards compatible.\u00a0 But for the Windows 10 1607 build of the ADK, the Sequencer portion only installs on 1607\/Svr2016 and above. The package formats appear to be identical with that of the 5.1 Sequencer, but since you are packaging on Windows 10 you pretty much can&#8217;t run the packages on older OSs.\u00a0 But you know what?\u00a0 The sequencer hasn&#8217;t even needed a hotfix since 5.1 was released!\u00a0 It&#8217;s pretty rock solid right now.<\/li>\n<li>The App-V Server does not have a 5.2 version at this time.\u00a0 The last time we asked, Microsoft was still committed to the server, and I expect that they will find a way to put out a new version of the server to restart the clock.\u00a0 No guarantees on that one yet, but they have a year and a half to figure that one out.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Microsoft has been fixing the App-V client in the new codebase (5.2) and back-porting fixes to 5.1 for about a year now.\u00a0 The translated German post says something along the line that backporting hotfixes after the 1704 release in April will be more difficult.\u00a0 I think that this means they are not committing to backporting every fix they make after 1704 goes out, but will try to get any important ones backported, within the bounds of the lifecycle dates.\u00a0 What makes it important?\u00a0 Well a bunch of customers complaining really helps a lot!<\/p>\n<p>You already have a problem with Windows 7 support ending, so this news really isn&#8217;t news but an opportunity for you to understand how App-V is being supported in the future.\u00a0 We can&#8217;t wait to see what&#8217;ll be new in 1704 because you can&#8217;t see it in the insiders builds.<\/p>\n<p>So what are the dates?\u00a0 See the links below.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft OS Lifecycles: <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/13853\/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet\">https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/13853\/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Microsoft App-V 5.1 Lifecycles:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.msdn.microsoft.com\/sgern\/2017\/03\/03\/app-v-5-1-nahert-sich-dem-ende-des-mainstream-supports\/\">https:\/\/blogs.msdn.microsoft.com\/sgern\/2017\/03\/03\/app-v-5-1-nahert-sich-dem-ende-des-mainstream-supports<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sebasitan, the German Microsoft Escalation Engineer we often get new news from about App-V, recently blogged about the dates for the lifecycles for App-V 5.1.\u00a0 Before people get upset, let&#8217;s make sure you understand what this means. 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