{"id":2433,"date":"2016-02-18T09:12:44","date_gmt":"2016-02-18T14:12:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/?p=2433"},"modified":"2016-08-07T11:47:56","modified_gmt":"2016-08-07T15:47:56","slug":"app-v-to-be-added-to-windows-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/?p=2433","title":{"rendered":"App-V to be added to Windows 10"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"This week, Microsoft finally announced their plans for App-V. They will move App-V \u00a0into the core of the operating system<\/strong>. Microsoft\u2019s Steve Thomas, speaking in a webinar with Flexera<\/span><\/a>, made the announcement (near the end of the webinar).\u00a0 This is HUUUUUUUUUGE!<\/p>\n

This work has been ongoing for some time, and I had the opportunity to meet with the developers in their new home in Redmond late last year.\u00a0 Certainly, moving App-V \u201cin the box\u201d is no simple feat, which is in part why there was not a November refresh that we are used to with App-V.<\/p>\n

Nor has Microsoft been talking about App-V much, leaving much of the conversation about it to vendors selling alternative (well, really cooperative, as all of them will tell you that you still need App-V even after you buy their solution) techniques for dealing with Applications. Thankfully, the NDA shackles are now off and we can now publicly talk about the future of App-V.<\/p>\n

While the publicly announced details are few, we know that \u201cin the box\u201d refers to Windows 10 Enterprise SKUs \u00a0ONLY, and will start showing up in the Redstone release as a feature.\u00a0 Whether the feature is enabled by default or not was not specified, but my money is on it being something you have to enable.\u00a0 Not addressed in the announcement, it is reasonable to assume that it also shows up in Server 2016 as well, I would guess as a role feature of RDS.\u00a0 Nothing was said about back-porting it to Windows 7, but I would expect Windows 7 to continue to use the installable client as it does today.<\/p>\n

Steve referred to a series of release targets, Redstone 1 and Redstone 2, which are known commonly as anticipated release flights of Windows 10 expected out this spring\/summer and sort of tied to Server 2016.\u00a0 While detail was lacking, I interpret that Redstone 1 will work using the PowerShell interface (stand-alone client) and with the existing App-V 5.1 server, while Configuration Manager support will require Redstone 2 (well, unless you send them out as powershell script packages instead of embedded App-V 5 Deployment type).<\/p>\n

Adding App-V into the OS directly is something we have looked for ever since the acquisition of Softricity<\/span><\/a> \u00a0nearly 10 years ago.\u00a0 Back then, it didn\u2019t make sense to Microsoft.\u00a0 In part, it was a niche solution back then, and Microsoft also had plans to monetize it via what became MDOP, an add-on suite for Enterprises.\u00a0 But with Microsoft ownership and stamp of approval of the technology, App-V became much more mainstream in the Enterprise market.\u00a0 I\u2019m not privy to the numbers, but even without anyone really trying to sell enterprises App-V recently it seems to be in use in the majority of them.<\/p>\n

What I look forward to, once the integrations are complete, is what opportunities it will open up.\u00a0 With the developers in Redmond (rather than Boston or Utah), and being part of the core OS, they are no longer restricted by the \u201cChinese Firewalls\u201d put in place as part of the anti-trust lawsuits of the past.\u00a0 Performance and Compatibility should both increase, but perhaps with access, new ideas can abound as well.<\/p>\n

_____<\/p>\n

Tim Mangan<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

This week, Microsoft finally announced their plans for App-V. They will move App-V \u00a0into the core of the operating system. Microsoft\u2019s Steve Thomas, speaking in a webinar with Flexera, made the announcement (near the end of the webinar).\u00a0 This is HUUUUUUUUUGE! This work has been ongoing for some time, and I had the opportunity to… Continue reading App-V to be added to Windows 10<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[47],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2433","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-appv5","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2433","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2433"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2433\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2440,"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2433\/revisions\/2440"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2433"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2433"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tmurgent.com\/TmBlog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2433"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}